Tony_Stark
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Registered: 10/30/09
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My mind is a mess right now (could be the hangover) so no wonder if this post makes no sense to you.
I'm a 24 year old guy, living far away from his home in a foreign country (that's it, English is not my first language). I am a flight attendant -yup, one of the 10% who are not actually gay  - working for a low-fares airline. Just FYI, I never had a girlfriend, I was the usual computer geek and I spent the most part of my teen years locked up in my room thinking something was wrong with the world because girls liked "bad guys" and bad guys liked to smash my face with their fists. So I have next-to-none social skills that I started developing like only a year ago. And I think I'm doing pretty well.
As glamorous as being a flight attendant may sound, it's not so great. We don't manage to visit the places we flight to (unless we do it on our off days), the salary is enough to live in a shared flat and survive pretty decently with some party nights (but forget about buying that cool jacket in that shop) and you work only 20 days a month tops but the shifts change every week (earlies suck pretty much).
Ok, talking about glamour: Once you get into the system you can see there is a Social Ladder pretty much like in the real world, but in miniature. Our fellow female colleagues (yeap, the sexy air hostesses) are prone to lay the most high-status guys in the company.
Which goes like this:
· Captains
· First Officers
· Pursers
· Juniors
This means: Captains get all the girls, First Officers get lots too, Pursers get some, Juniors get NONE (or maybe the ones discarded by the forementioned).
I even know a girl who is dating a pilot (an ugly prick actually) and she doesn't even like him!!
Why do they do that? May it be because they portray some traits like success, being in command or wealth? Most probably.
The only real success a Junior like me can have is with passengers, because in the plane even the Juniors look nice on their black suits, they are the visible autority in the reduced space of the Boeing 737-800, the pilots are locked in their cock-pit (pun intended  ).
I don't think that's even nearly fair. Out of that little world I am mainly powerless (try telling a girl in the club that you are a flight attendant). I want to unplug myself from the matrix and be able to display the same traits a Captain does without actually being a Captain. Because I DESERVE IT. Maybe I'm not so tall (1.76m), maybe I'm not muscular, maybe I could lose some weight, maybe I'm uglier than my gay colleagues (haha) but come on! I've seen a bald pakistani pilot dating a girl who could be a MODEL! I am a much better guy (and better looking) than many of them!
I even find myself thinking in becoming a pilot just for the sake of having awesome social status. Of course, flying a plane sounds great, but I really like being a steward.
Regards,
Mark.
p.s. Actually I think that a girl who chases after Captains just for they rank is not worth it, but if you get to know them, some of those girls are really nice and insecure despite beautiful in the end. Maybe that's why they are looking for a guy with power, economic stability and that sh*t.
p.s.2: The company I work for flights to many cities in Poland such as Krakow or Poznan. You can see some really beautiful girls in those flights. Not beautiful like "yeah, she's hot" but like "Oh my god, she looks like an angel and I'd like to marry her right here".
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seanmessenger
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uh, i taught a pilot at a workshop, and he confessed to me that it ain't that way anymore.
no job is a sure-fire way to get laid. so becoming a pilot to get girls is a waste of your time.
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Tony_Stark
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Registered: 10/30/09
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Of course, and I know being a pilot is not so great, but still the girls fall for them, I can see that everyday, you know. Anyway my question was not about becoming a pilot to get girls. It was about how to obtain a high social status without great looks, lots of money or a "awesome" job.
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Cameron
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"It was about how to obtain a high social status without great looks, lots of money or a "awesome" job."
Be tonnes of fun and love your life.
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Toniy
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Abso-fucking-lutely... +1 on Cam.
Fella I'm a waiter.
I got my degree etc. etc. etc. I get asked several times a week if the job is my 'real job' or if I'm 'a student here'... and it gets a little tedious, but my point is that my perceived social status is about that of a shit.
I'm a waiter, and that's pretty much the lowest status job there is... since I'm not in Hollywood or American Psycho... I don't even get direct tips (officially  )
However... girls adore me, if I choose to show them that side of myself. This basically means that I can now choose which girls to let in.
My social status within work is sky-high pretty much, yet I don't party with them (long hours, no money), I live with the boss (actually not a social killer as you might imagine) and I can be a prick sometimes.
But I work fucking hard at my job. I'm very good at what I do, I'm the customer's favourite because I talk to them, engage them, chat, joke, get a little bit cheeky, a little eccentric... I am totally myself with them. I get them to buy more and leave more tips. Because they enjoy me.
Because I'm tonnes of fun and love my life
Still a waiter.
Girls see that, they see me hurling a full tray of pasta dishes over my head and semi-sprinting, dancing, spinning and whirling around the tables, pillars, leaks, prams and children (skill)... they see the customers laughing, smiling, blushing, batting eyelids and shaking hands with me (charm)... they see the laughter, the hugs, the banter and the play-fighting with the other guys that work there (fun)... they see the blood from my hands, the stains from the sauces and the sweat pouring off my brow and soaking through my steamed white cotton shirt as I make sure that what needs to be done is done (character... and thermogenics )...
... and they want in.
However if I'm being a prick (and I can be, especially if the girl in question doesn't pull her weight... I simply don't respect that, and to be honest I ignore them for the most part)... they can't allow themselves to become overtly into me right?
So if I see something in them... then I'll start to let them in slightly... I'll start simply by asking 'how are you'?
Then I'll start making eye contact more often... smiling... asking them about themselves and taking an interest... and then starts the soft eyes, the longer gazes, the glancing touches... so on and so forth.
Still a fucking minimum wage waiter 
This isn't just with girls that work with me... these are customers as well... these are women I meet on my days off. They don't see the other stuff... just the smile on my face and the smile in my eyes 
Love your life man... and if you don't love your job... or can't find a way to let your personality into your job (and the fact that you're around people all the time tells me that you CAN do these things... if you just have the confidence to step outside the box, go off script and maybe be a little bit cheeky)... then get out and find something you do love.
Something that will make you smile.
Treat every person you meet like you already know them. Your English is superb (even as a first language ) and you're quite fucking funny to be honest.
Feel comfortable making a joke that most people wouldn't make for fear of breaking the 'social contract' (i.e. you shut the fuck up, I'll shut the fuck up, and we'll all leave adequately)...
I hope this has made some sense to you buddy... because you've clearly got it in you... you just gotta let it out some
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Matt
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tony_Stark
I want to unplug myself from the matrix and be able to display the same traits a Captain does without actually being a Captain. Because I DESERVE IT.
Because you deserve....
WHAT? exactly? What are you saying you deserve?
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seanmessenger
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i got way more girls when i was a waiter than when i was making $120K per year working at Stanford University.
Social status doesn't count for SHIT unless you enjoy it.
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Nightgaunt
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Sean is right. The time in my life that was easiest to get girls was when I worked as a Department Manager of Toys at a Wal-Mart while I went to a crappy community college.
Part of it was competition. A lot of times as dudes we try to compete with the other dudes around us in areas where we are weak. For example, some girls really like the security of wealth, so if you try to attract girls like that you BETTER have more wealth then anyone else showing interest.
If you attract girls by being genuine and caring, then you should be more genuine and more caring toward her then other people she meets. One of the reasons it was so easy for me to attract lovely women who were a little older and career minded was because I was not. I couldn't possibly compete with money or status, because the guys they ran in to had SO MUCH MORE of both it would be a waste of my time. So I competed with Freedom and Fun, something they didn't get enough of and something no one offered.
Don't play some one else's game to get the woman you want. Find your game, play it, and then conquer the people who don't understand it. I got a buddy of mine who pulls in no money, has a crappy job, but he always knows every cool place in town. So any girl who wants to go to the cool places hooks up with him. He plays his game, a game where money won't help as much as connections. Dorky white guys can't go to the places he goes, money won't help them because Image is everything. He has connections, and he knows all the best ways to have a good time, so he can attract any girl who likes those things. Now he won't be picking up too many introverted book-worms that way, but he doesn't want them either.
If you play your game you will probably find the kinda girls you want falling in to your lap. But you have to play, and you have to avoid playing the game by someone else's rules.
-Rob
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