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ledAstray
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    11/07/09 at 04:45 PM
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What the hell guys? I read posts here about guys having their libido gone through the roof by doing a lot of sports. I do a lot of sports and my libido is GONE. Seriously: before doing sports I could say when I masturbated the last time almost all the time. Now I don't have a fucking clue. Could be 4 weeks, 5 weeks, I dunno. And I don't feel like wanking/fucking at all. I don't even get a hard on.

To be honest, I couldn't give less of a shit. I mean I feel pretty much in control when I can control my wanking. But what bothers me is that I had sex 2 times previously and I had a hard time getting a hard on, keeping the erection and feeling a damn thing.

Is it psychological? Is it the protein shakes? The sport? Should I be worried? I mean I'm just 20 fucking 1!

Personally I think sports makes most sense. My libido downwards spiral coincides with it pretty well and I wouldn't know what else it might be.

What do you guys think?

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vboy123
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    11/07/09 at 07:08 PM
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not having a hard on, sounds like erectile dysfunction. Yup its quite common to most guys at some point in their lives. I woudln't be that bothered. Take ur mind of sex and just enjoy the joys in life. Once thats clear ur libido gets back to normal in time.
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    11/07/09 at 08:34 PM
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Maybe you're overworking with the sports? Any other changes in your life. If you have changed up your diet a lot because of sports that may be a cause too.

I will say one thing though, you seriously have to not stress about it. Nothing makes erectile dysfunction worse then when you start to worry about it.

For now I prescribe some ginseng tablets daily (or in the raw if you can tolerate it) and see if that doesn't help out. I am really guessing it is due to nutritional changes that you made because of sports and less the sports directly.

Are you competing in said sports? Stress can cause dysfunction like nothing else.

Also I'm assuming you ain't juicing.

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ledAstray
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    11/08/09 at 07:33 AM
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I don't think I have ED. I don't know the exact definition, but I could get a hard on if I stimulated myself. I tested it recently. It's just that my libido is pretty damn low. I feel like sex is possible, but more work than fun. If however the stimulation is low (as in having sex with condoms) I have a pretty hard time getting off.

Maybe my central nervous system is overloaded, I dunno. I just feel pretty good about my changes in the sports sector and I'd like to keep it that way. The real question I wanted to ask is if somebody has gone through a different change and can confirm that one day (as in: soon) my body will get used to it and I'll be horny again

Oh and I'm not competing and I'm not worried about it. I would maybe if I had a girlfriend, but this way I don't really care.

And diet: I eat the same way I ate before (healthy and nutritious) with the only difference of drinking whey protein shakes now (which I will stop as soon as the bottle is empty). And no fucking way on earth am I juicing!

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    11/08/09 at 09:50 AM
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Chill, bro. It's natural.

You're putting a lot of energy into workouts now, and it's going to take some time to adjust. It's totally normal, and will right itself. In the meantime...

1. Focus on basic weightlifting exercises with as many large muscles engaged as possible. The basic Olympic and powerlifts are great. The more you build large muscle, the more testosterone boost you will get. Long slow aerobic activity, esp. running, will deplete testosterone levels.

2. Make sure you are eating right and supplemementing with minerals. Eat as much fresh food as you can (nothing from boxes or bags or anything with scary sounding ingredients on the label). There's a supplement called ZMA that is great for keeping up your minerals that get depleted during hard workouts.

3. Check yourself on this. What the pharmas make a ton of money off calling ED is almost always something emotional. You're looking inside and doing a lot of work on yourself, and may be finding that your sexuality and emotions have a big disconnect. I know I get this all the time. I can either get stimulated by porn, or by a real connection with a girl, but nothing in-between. It's a phase of re-connecting to sexuality. Roll with it. You'll be fine.

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ledAstray
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    11/08/09 at 12:33 PM
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Nice, thanks.

Actually I'm trying to cut back on the long runs, but I believe 20 minute interval training at very high intensity has about the same effect as weight lifting in regards to testosterone.

Anyway, I'll try the porn thing. I believe it worked in the past. Just to make sure ma lil buddy is still kickin' it

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ledAstray
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    Yesterday at 06:17 AM
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Hey guys,

just wanted to give you a quick update: I haven't done anything sports related for two weeks now and my libido is as high as before. So yeah: I definitely think that my body couldn't handle the massive changes in my sports schedule. I'm going to start doing sports again next week/the week after that and we'll see how it's going to work out this time. If my libido should fall down to zero again, we'll see. Maybe this would stop me from chasing girls and focusing more on myself for the moment. I guess it takes the body a couple of months to adapt to high amounts of sports and still having enough energy to rock the bedroom

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    Yesterday at 10:11 AM
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You overtrained and under-supplemented.

Try a ZMA supplement (hard workouts drain you of zinc and magnesium more than you realize), and NO long aerobic workouts.

Try this simple, brutally effective, and easy-to-do weight workout instead. It WILL boost your testosterone... just remember to take it slow.

http://www.menshealth.com/cda/article.do?site=menshealth&channel=fitness&category=workout.plans&conitem=d2b3a9f3340dc010vgnvcm10000013281eac____

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ledAstray
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    Yesterday at 10:33 AM
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You overtrained and under-supplemented.

Yeah, probably. Although everything I did I did with moderation (never left the gym later than 1 hour after I entered) it just was too much going from zero to hero.

And I'm not doing long runs anymore, I'll try to keep my runs under 30 minutes. My body is obviously not made for fast sprints, but marathons and the likes are in reality just body deterioration. Not exactly what I'm aiming for.

About the ZMA thing: I'm not panic-y about taking supplements, but how about increasing my natural zinc and magnesium intake? You never know what exactly is in the supplements and they tend to be darn expensive too. But yeah, I'll make a visit to my nearest Bodycult store and take a look. Thanks.

Edit: I just took a look at the training routine you showed me. To be honest it looks really weird, but that's not really the problem. The problem is that it still looks pretty complicated. Is that a common method gym teachers should know about or is it rather a underdog thingy?

And something I didn't really grasp from reading the article: if the workout was that great, why should I ADD it to my existing workout instead of replacing it? From reading the article I get the feeling I should first do the routine written in Men's Health and then I should do my normal weight lifting routine!? Doesn't really make sense to me.

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    Yesterday at 11:13 AM
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Just do the lifts they mention. Do two on one day, the other two the next day. One day on, one day rest. You will start to feel a difference. I'm guessing that as a long-distance runner you don't have a lot of well-developed fast twitch muscle fiber, and that's gonna keep your testosterone level low. These explosive, powerful lifts will build that fast-twitch fiber, and build power, and speed, and useful muscle without making you get all bulky and odd and stiff.

IME, there is absolutely no reason that any adult man should not be doing regular resistance training (something where you work your muscles against real weight). It's what our bodies are built to do, but in modern life we get very few chances to actually do it.

Plus, you'll feel fucking GREAT.

(I even more highly recommend doing the full Olympic lifts, the snatch and the clean and jerk, but as they mention in the article, they are very tricky to do right, so this is a great place to start).

I can say with full confidence that discovering weight-lifting as a discipline (not as a means-to-an-end to look good) is the key factor in why I was able to change my life for the better, overcome depression, childhood trauma, and all the other disadvantages I dealt with, and built a real, satisfying life for myself. I can't imagine how sad I would be without it.

YMMV, but it's really worth trying.

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ledAstray
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    Yesterday at 12:45 PM
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Nice, I always hated the idea of weightlifting JUST as a means to get bigger by having to deal with getting less flexible and slow.

Still, I'm not sure I really get it: right now I'm following the "Body for Life" plan which you can check out here if you want: Body for Life.

Are you suggesting I drop that plan and JUST go for the mentioned lifts? Something like: Two exercises on Monday and two exercises on Friday? Is that supposed to be everything? No more than two exercises, twice a week? I'm aware that overtraining is bullshit and that less, effective work is better than spending hours training every single muscle. But what about the legs e.g.? Are they going to profit from the training too?

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seanmessenger
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    Yesterday at 12:52 PM
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If you have an extra day in Warsaw, I'll be happy to show you.

YES, just do this workout and nothing else. If you EVER lift for more than 30 minutes, you are doing way too much (unless you are using steroids).

This stuff works your entire body, HARD. That's why no one ever does it. Too hard. Too good.

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ledAstray
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    Yesterday at 12:58 PM
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Awesome. I'd love to!

I'll arrive on Thursday noon and leave on Monday afternoon. I guess Thursday/Friday would be best, dunno what works best for you?

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